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Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Cryonics is a hybrid industry combining medical and death industries.[more+]

I've been thinking about cryonics since 1978 when I found Ettinger's Prospect of Immortality at a used book sale for 50 cents. I had been attending McMaster University in Hamilton Ontario at the time-- in 1978-- and used book stores for me, at that time-- were my equivalent today of the internet to a large extent. From 1978 to 2008, 30 years-- I've seen cryonics go.... nowhere essentially. Yes, there have been technical advances-- and some growth-- but nothing like what the original thesis by Ettinger-- and the lost thesis of Ev Cooper-- imagined-- which was a revolutionary approach to death that transformed death into a mere temporary medical condition that, at the time, was rightfullly called "suspended animation". Click on [more+] in the subject line above.
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Rick Potvin said...

More... continued from first page...

Today, suspended animation is a term used by medical researchers that applies only to above freezing bloodless surgery situations-- that is surely interesting and on the cryonics continuum-- but is NOT what we meant in the early years. Overall, we're not "in the future" we imagined. Why not? That's the essence of the dilemma we cryonicists face these days. My NEW tentative answer is that the problem is BEST viewed as the problem that attends to the DECOMPARTMENTALIZATI"ON of two compartmentalized industries-- the death care industry and the medical industry. What we're doing in cryonics is creating a HYBRID industry that involves elements of BOTH-- and THAT is the essence of the situation-- and the problem we face.

The larger context in which cryonics lives and breathes is the political and social fabric we live in-- the conflict defined by Larouche as the oligarchical British system push for anti-popuation measures vs. the American system based on Classical Humanism which is pro-population, always seeking to increase the relative potential population density of the Earth and near-space. The two diametrically opposed movements in history are hidden from cognitive view of the general population who, for the most part, are severely undereducated- never having had the "luxury" of being able to explore topics in a university setting-- the universities themselves being hampered by British empiricist control-- as evidenced by the splitting up of faculties into insane divisions that make little sense-- with the sociological and economic divisions of people as a result-- that follow them into the working world

And here lies the essence of the problem as I now see it. The medical industry is populated by those persons whose minds have been conditioned to seek medical solutions to medical problems. Nothing wrong with that, except for the fact that the idea of death, from a medically trained persons point of view is one which treats the dying process and the death condition in a most peculiar way-- that the human body is so much garbage. The organs are salvaged for transplant-- but that's about it.

The essential container of personality, memory and perhaps soul-- conciousness in any case-- the head-- is allowed to decompose after the salvaging of the valuable eyes pershaps. The brain, the seat of awareness, doesn't seem to be viewed as something that ought to be salvaged. And therein lies the conflict with cryonics. From there, the death industry seeks merely to allow the termination of the life of the individual, and takes the leftover picked-clean human carcass-- left by medical buzzards-- to be disposed of under state guidelines for cleanliness and safety.

Cryonics is a hybrid industry that seeks to emply both medical industry and death industry standards in the salvaging essentially of the brain-- and without getting into the topics that cryonics typically deals with-- cryonics is essentially attempting to transplant the human head to a freezer. That's the essence of the practical situation. That industry is struggling because the financial interests are mostly gravitated toward EITHER the medical people or the death industry. Cryonics represents a financial competitor for limited resources-- that takes from both industries. Neither industry sees an advantage to itself in cryonics and therefore they both either tolerate the intrusion to a certain extent or fight it and openly resist it.

Some cryonicists are arguing that cryonics is best seen as a medical strategy. I disagree and I'm attacked and villified for the view. I'm not arguing that cryonics is best seen from a death point of view-- but rather that cryonics is ESSESNTIALLLY a NEW HYBRID industry-- that the paradoxes associated with cryonics are resolved by looking at cryonics AS a hybrid-- and constantly maintaining a transparent position on that. Cryonics is the "medicine of death"-- and it is NEITHER medince NOR death-- exclusively-- but rather "mortality medicine". It's a new industry in a nascent stage-- a "medical mortality" industry-- which is a higher concept than "cryonics" which deals with the topic from a cryonicists point of view-- not the medical industry's or death industry's point of view. The "medical mortality" industry is in trouble because it is underfunded.

I'm not done with this line of thought but that's enough for now.

April 30, 2008

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